tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8676538176679335464.post3382093248586426005..comments2023-10-26T09:46:52.936-04:00Comments on Nathan Barontini's Blog: Why it Doesn't Make Sense to Define Atheism as "Lack of Belief"Nathan Barontinihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05149641876919091106noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8676538176679335464.post-47993993271381083512018-03-06T14:42:26.112-05:002018-03-06T14:42:26.112-05:00I prefer NOT to be defined by something I DO NOT p...I prefer NOT to be defined by something I DO NOT participate in or have affiliation with. If you are a smoker and I don't smoke, don't call me a non-smoker. If you drink Dr Pepper and I don't, don't call me a non-Dr Pepper drinker. If you are a theist and I don't believe in any religion, don't call me an atheist or non-theist or non-believer. Don't wrap me up in any of this nonsense. I don't need any of those labels to exist. Just call me Steve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18433432325180890795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8676538176679335464.post-15355714502933638002017-05-04T16:44:14.632-04:002017-05-04T16:44:14.632-04:00"Group 1 - Theism - God Exists
Group 2 - Athe..."Group 1 - Theism - God Exists<br />Group 2 - Atheism1 (theism’s contradictory) - God doesn’t exist<br />Group 3 - Agnosticism2 (the skeptics) - We can’t know whether God exists or not<br />Group 4 - Weak Agnosticism (the ignorant) - God may or may not exist."<br /><br />Where's "probably", "probably not" "depends which god you're talking about" etc? <br /><br />"This last group is the weakest as it makes no real claim about anything outside their own heads."<br /><br />So do you hypocrite. You can't say for a fact if God exists, you can only say if you believe in God. <br /><br />"They are simply ignorant on the issue."<br /><br />NO ONE knows for a fact if Jehovah is real! You can be pretty sure or doubt it, though. <br /><br /> "In the same way we have three different positions that can have an active role in answering “the God question” while those claiming ignorance on the issue are best left to study the arguments and move into one of the other three camps."<br /><br />So... basically, you're trying to shame people for being open-minded. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630047639388608058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8676538176679335464.post-36945816249779521752015-10-16T09:51:40.736-04:002015-10-16T09:51:40.736-04:00"Lack of belief" can describe both athei..."Lack of belief" can describe both atheism and agnosticism and thus fails to provide a good definition. Further, if atheism solely describes subjective personal states of belief (or lack thereof) and if it contains no objective truth claims, then it is entirely unimportant and unarguable. Someone says "I'm an atheist" (meaning not, "I am advancing a truth claim that the real word is godless" but only "I personally lack belief in any God or gods"). The only response is, "Okay. I'm sure you know whether or not you believe in God, but honestly, who cares?"Nathan Barontinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149641876919091106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8676538176679335464.post-25288402414759164152015-03-03T11:13:31.746-05:002015-03-03T11:13:31.746-05:00Nathan,
I have offered a rebuttal to this article...Nathan,<br /><br />I have offered a rebuttal to this article, and another, in the link below:<br /><br />http://paintyourpanda.blogspot.com/2015/03/bad-creationist-arguments-redefining_3.htmlAlexis Delanoirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09507261330011665079noreply@blogger.com